Troop 505 Appalachian Trail Max Patch Expedition Specs May 2-4

Carry OnExpedition Specs provided by Dallas West


Max Patch is a trip where the scouts of troop 505 are going to be hiking the Appalachian Trail to the grassy summit of max patch. The first part of the trip will begin friday where scouts will be starting out by traveling from the American Legion to stop at Lake James State Park to camp out for the night. On Saturday scouts will wake up at 5am and then take a 2 hour drive to brown gap arriving at 10am. scouts will then take a very strenuous 6 mile hike to the top of max, meaning scouts should bring lots of water and some nutritional snacks. Once scouts are 3 miles into the hike they will stop at a water supply and use the techniques taught at the planning meeting. Continuing on to the summit we will stop for necessary rest breaks and at 12:30 wherever we are on the trail we will find a good spot to sit for lunch. After lunch we will continue hiking toward the summit with an ETA of around 5:00pm. Be prepared for the greatest view in the southeast. After taking in the view we will continue to our campsite which will only be about a 20 minute hike, where we will setup and sleep for the night. Sunday we will get up at 9am and enjoy max patch, get packed up. and hike about an hour to the car. The Scoutmaster will meet us at the top of Max Patch with the van so we can get home in time since Brown Gap would take simply another day. Scouts should start each section of the trail with at least 2 liters of water

This is a perfect trip to test yourself as a scout even if you are not an experienced backpacker. Please plan to Be Prepared. If scouts need an idea on what they might need they can visit the scout handbook. Please check out: First aid on pages 122-77, Leave No Trace on pages 242-59, Hiking on pages 260-83 and Camping on pages 284-311.

Anticipated Costs

Transportation: $15-20 (estimated)
Meals: All meals should be based on using the freeze dried material we discussed at our april 9th troop meeting.

Meal Plan

Friday night: Eating on the road
Saturday morning: Quick breakfast: suggested: powdered milk, pro bar meal, cliff bar.
Saturday lunch: Hiking lunch: suggested: nutritionally balanced sandwich.
Saturday snacks: Hike-with-it snacks: suggested: trail mix, fruit bars, beef jerky.
Saturday dinner: Freeze dried: suggested: beef stroganoff with green beans.
Sunday breakfast: Freeze dried: suggested: bacon and eggs mountain house meal.
Sunday lunch: On the road: suggested: BOJANGLES.


Friday May 2 (Day 1)
5:00pm: depart from American Legion Post 6
7:00pm: stop on the road for dinner.
8:00pm: arrive at Lake James State Park for overnight stay.
10:00pm: LIGHTS OUT

Saturday May 3 (Day 2)
6:30am: take 3 hour drive to brown gap.
9:30am: arrive at brown gap.
10:00am: Start the 3.6 mile hike up to max and continuing to our camp site.
12:30pm: stop along the trail for lunch.
5:00pm: Arrive at max patch summit.
6:00pm: Arrive at campsite, setup, Eat dinner.
11:00pm: LIGHTS OUT.

Sunday May 4 (Day 3)
8:00am: Wake up, Breakfast, Break camp.
9-10am: Enjoy max patch.
10:00am: Hike 1 hour back to car at max patch parking lot.
11:00am: Depart for American legion Post 6
12:30pm: Stop for lunch along the road.
5:00pm: Arrive home at American Legion Post 6.

Driving Directions

Directions to Brown Gap
Turn left on I-40 West 265 miles.
Take Exit 7 towards Cold Springs Creek Rd 0.1 mile.
Turn left on Cold Springs Creek Rd and drive 3.2 miles.
Take a left on local road and drive 1.2 miles.
Arrive at Brown Gap

Troop 505 Hanging Rock Trek Philmont 2014 Shakedown Mar 23

High AdventureIt’s time once again to get out and get those boots dirty! This is the second of several hikes that we’ll be doing to loosen up the legs and and get a feel for our equipment.

This hike is highly recommended, so please plan to participate. This hike will be harder than the last, and should take us about 4 hours to complete. Time (and legs) permitting, the 1.3 mile loop out to Hanging Rock can be tacked on at the end.

Hanging Rock State Park

Moore’s Wall Loop

Distance: 4.3 miles

Level: Strenuous

Sunday March 23rd

Meet at 7:15 am at the American Legion Post.

Leave for Hanging Rock State Park at 7:30 am.

Arrive at Hanging Rock around 9:30 am. Park at the swimming area, the trailhead is off of the snack bar. See inset of park map:

From the swimming area, the trail heads west, crosses Cascade Creek, then begins its long climb up 2,572-foot Moores Wall.

Map (we’ll be following the loop in a clockwise direction):

You must bring a printout of the trail with you and a compass for navigation.

A GPS IS NO SUBSTITUTE (A good compass)


Park Website

We will stop around the halfway point to have lunch, then head out to complete the hike. We’ll be wearing our backpacks on this hike, and you should try to carry 20-30 pounds of stuff in it.

I suggest plenty of water (a bladder is a good choice) and a few healthy hiking snacks. Hiking poles highly recommended. Ideally everyone is wearing the boots they plan to wear on the trek to start getting used them if they haven’t already. The goal being to get out as a group to spend time together, build some confidence by putting in miles while not overdoing it on our first outing.

Troop 505 Wilderness First Aid Certification Expedition Specs Feb 28-Mar 2


Troop 505 is heading to Camp Campbell to complete wilderness first aid training and first aid merit badge.  Scouts and adults will have an intensive training weekend to complete the wilderness first aid training.  “Be Prepared” for all unexpected scenarios and weather.  The weather is still uncertain for this weekend and scouts will want to plan for cold nights with chances of wet weather.


Scouts will plan, bring, and prepare their own food for meals unless they decided and planned to eat as a patrol.  Participants will have a crackerbarrel on Friday night and each patrol should bring a food item to contribute to the crackerbarrel.  Saturday evening dinner will be a patrol potluck and each patrol should plan to make a meal for their patrol to contribute to the potluck.  Scouts will eat the following meals on the trip: Friday Dinner and Crackerbarrel; Saturday breakfast, lunch, and dinner; Sunday breakfast and lunch.  Sunday dinner will be eaten on the road on the return ride home.


Scouts will need to bring their own camping gear, food, first aid kit and (survival) “kit” for the weekend.  Participants need to have a “kit” to survive “emergency wilderness” conditions if they “occur” as part of the wilderness first aid training.  Each scout should tailor their “kit” for the terrain and weather at Camp Campbell. “Kit” gear was discussed during one of the meetings leading up to this trip.


All participants need to make sure they bring a “RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN” to turn in at the beginning of the weekend.  This plan should include: travel route, map/route profile, important medical information for members of the patrol, estimated times, permit numbers, expected weather, emergency contact information (person remaining in front county to use as a point of contact).


Friday February 28, 2014

5:00pm- depart from American Legion, Chapel Hill

6:30pm- arrive at Camp Campbell, set up camp, eat a quick dinner

7:00pm- begin wilderness 1st aid training, crackerbarrel

10:30pm- lights out

Saturday March 1st, 2014

6:45- wake, eat breakfast

7:30am- begin wilderness first aid training

12:00pm- lunch

1:00pm- continue wilderness 1st aid training

5:30pm dinner

7:00pm wilderness 1st aid

10:00pm lights out

Sunday March 2nd, 2014

7:00- wake, eat breakfast

7:45- scouts own (wear Class A uniform)

8:30- continue wilderness first aid training

12:00pm- lunch

12:45pm- wilderness 1st aid

5:45pm- finish training, break down camp

6:00pm depart for Chapel Hill

7:45pm arrive at American Legion, Chapel Hill


Depart Legion and drive on Europa Drive

Turn Right on US 15/501 N.   (7.8 miles)

Merge on to I-85 N. (40.2 miles)

Take exit 214 for NC 39 N (14 miles)

Fork Right onto Rock Spring Church Road/ NC 1356 (the church is in the fork)

Continue 3 miles.  You will cross the NC/VA state line

Turn left on State Road 717 onto State Road 826

Camp Campbell is on the right.

Travel time 1hour 15 minutes; 67 miles.

Troop 505 Sugar Mountain Ski Expedition Specs Jan 24-26

High AdventureOverview

Troop 505 will travel to Sugar Mountain Ski Resort in Banner Elk, NC.  Sugar Mountain has 20 ski trails that vary in difficulty from Beginner to Expert.  With 80% of the slopes having a Beginner or Intermediate classification, scouts can brave the slopes to the level of their ability and comfort.  The troop will enjoy cabin camping for the night and cook as a troop.  


Food:  $24

Lodging: $50

Travel: $20

Lift Ticked: $68 (if age 11 or under then only $45)

Ski Rental: $28 (if age 11 or under then only $19)

Ski Rental insurance (highly recommended) $5

NOTE: that the above estimates do not include group rates.  If enough scouts go on the trip these prices will be lower.


On this trip scouts will dine as a troop instead of patrols.  Patrols will rotate meal preparation and clean up.


Friday Dinner (travel $6)

Saturday Breakfast $3   Saturday Lunch $8 (on slopes)    Saturday Dinner $4

Sunday Breakfast $3


It will be cold and snowy on the slopes.  Scouts should dress in warm clothing that allows “flexibility” in movement so they can ski in comfort.  Hats, gloves, and warm socks are required gear.  Scouts need to bring their sleeping bags, ground pads, and additional warm clothing to change into after a day of skiing.  Additional gear will be discussed at the scout meetings.


Friday January 24th

5:30pm- Depart from American Legion for lodging in Seven Devils, NC

8:30pm- Stop for dinner. Woodlands BBQ, 8304 Valley Blvd, Blowing Rock, NC 28605

9:45-10:00pm-Arrive at lodging, unpack, lights out

Saturday January 21st

7:30am-wake, eat breakfast as a troop, prepare lunches

8:30am- depart for Sugar Mountain

9:00am-4:00pm Skiing.  Lunch on slopes

4:15pm- depart for cabin

4:45pm- arrive at cabin

6:00pm- dinner as a troop

8:00pm- watch movie in cabin

10:00pm-lights out

Sunday January 22nd

7:30am- wake, breakfast by patrol, pack up

8:30am- scouts own (class A uniform)

9:00am- depart for Chapel Hill

12:30pm- arrive at American Legion, Chapel Hill



177 miles, 3 hours 11 minutes

Head southwest on Legion Rd toward Ephesus Church Rd.  Turn right onto Ephesus Church Rd (0.1 miles).   Turn right onto N Fordham Blvd, go 1.2 miles. Continue onto US-15 N/US-501 N/Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd for 0.6 miles. Turn left to merge onto I-40 W toward Greensboro go 42.9 miles. Slight right onto I-40 W/I-85 BUS S (signs for Interstate 85 BUSINESS S/U.S 70/Greensboro/Winston-Salem) go 7.7 miles. Slight right onto I-40 W go 12.6 miles. Slight left to stay on I-40 W for 18.1 miles. Take exit 188 to merge onto US-421 N toward Yadkinville/Wilkesboro go 80.5 miles. Turn left onto N Carolina 105 S/US-221 S/Hwy 105 Extension S

Continue to follow N Carolina 105 S/Hwy 105 Extension S go 10.6 miles. Turn right onto 7 Devils Rd for 0.3 miles. Turn right to stay on 7 Devils Rd for 0.2 miles. Turn right to stay on 7 Devils Rd for 200 feet. Slight left to stay on 7 Devils Rd for 0.8 miles. Slight right onto Alpine Dr

Destination will be on the left (0.8 miles).  Arrive at 997 Alpine Dr Seven Devils, NC 28604.


7.7 miles, 17 minutes

From 997 Alpine Dr Seven Devils, NC 28604. Head southwest on Alpine Dr toward Meadowview Ct for 0.8 miles. Continue onto 7 Devils Rd for 0.8 miles. Turn left to stay on 7 Devils Rd for 0.2 miles. Take the 1st left to stay on 7 Devils Rd and go 0.3 miles. Turn right onto N Carolina 105 S/Hwy 105 Extension S and go 3.1 miles. Turn right onto N Carolina 184 N/Tynecastle Hwy and go 1.6 miles. Turn left onto Sugar Mountain Dr for 328 feet. Turn left to stay on Sugar Mountain Dr for 0.7 miles. Take the 3rd right to stay on Sugar Mountain Dr

Destination will be on the right for 0.1 miles. (arrive at 1009 Sugar Mountain Dr, Banner Elk, NC 28604)

Troop 505 Minka Farm Ultimate Capture The Flag Expedition Specs Dec 13-15

The ScoutmasterVeterinary Medicine, Animal Science, and Automotive Maintenance Merit Badges will be offered.


Troop 505 will spend the weekend at Minka Farm (Harry’s Farm) in Efland, NC.  The scouts will have a working farm experience.  The scouts will cover some requirements for veterinary medicine, animal science, and automotive maintenance merit badges.

Minka farm is owned by Harry family, parents of scout Alex Henry and Eagle Scout Nathan Harry.  The Harry’s raise cattle, chickens, ducks, vegetables, and orchard fruit on Minka farm.  Learn more at

NOTE: Scout should eat Friday Dinner prior to departure from the American Legion.


On Troop 505 Website Transportation: $3-6

Meals: ~$18-25



6 pm

Depart from American Legion (Scouts eat on their own before departure)
6:45 Arrive at Minka Farm, set up camp
7:00 pm Tour
10 pm Lights out


7:01-8:00 Breakfast by patrol
8:00-11:00am Automotive Maintenance Merit Badge OR Scout game (scouts’ choose)
11:00-12:00 Hour of service on the farm
12:00-1:00pm Lunch by patrol
1:00-6:00pm Work on Merit Badge Animal Science and Veterinary Merit Badges
6:00-7:30pm Dinner in Patrols
7:30-9:30pm Capture the Flag
9:30-10:30pm Campfire
10:30- More capture the flag/bed

8:30 am

Reveille / Breakfast in patrols, break down camp
11:00am Scouts own followed by leave no trace
11:30am Depart for Chapel Hill

Personal Equipment

Prepare for a farm experience.  Make sure to bring warm clothing for cool weather.  A hat, warm coat, and gloves are recommended, while you should be prepared for wet weather as well.   Equipment guidelines:  The fifteen camping essentials checklist is located on the Troop 505 website under “checklists” (right hand side of main webpage).   Scouts should also bring a notebook and pen for notes.  Scouts doing automotive maintenance merit badge may want to bring clothes that can get dirty (check car oil, etc).


Wear your Class B uniform (Scout pants) on this outing.  Bring your class A s for flag ceremonies, Scout’s Own, and the Campfire.  Bring a complete change of dry clothes to be left in the vehicles for the ride home.


Meals are by patrol as arranged at the Troop meeting on Wednesday night.  If you have questions about your responsibilities or cooking supplies contact your patrol leader.  Patrols will prepare meals (Saturday breakfast, lunch, dinner, and Sunday breakfast).



Saturday breakfast: $3 per person

Saturday lunch: $4 per person

Saturday dinner: $4 per person

Sunday breakfast: $3 per person

Tent Assignments

Tent assignments will be made by patrol at Wednesday night’s meeting.


Take US 40 West to Exit 157 (Buckhorn Rd Exit, approximately 20 miles).  Exit 157 turn left on Buckhorn Rd and drive 3.6 miles and turn left onto Minka Farm Lane. Drive down Mink Farm Lane approximately 0.2 miles. Approximately 26 miles each way.

Troop 505 Camp Durant Climbing Wall Expedition Specs Nov 8-10

All TogetherOverview

Troop 505 will visit Camp Durant to engage in a weekend of scout skills including the climbing wall, rifle shooting, and a great capture the flag game. Scouts can work on requirements for camping, rifle shooting, and climbing merit badges.  Preview Camp Durant at  Find merit badge requirements at

Estimated Costs

Food: $25

Travel:  $8-11

Camp: $10

Program: $10-15


Friday Dinner: $4

Saturday Breakfast: $3

Saturday Lunch: $3

Saturday Dinner: $4

Sunday Breakfast: $3

Sunday Lunch (Bojangles): $6

NOTE: Scouts will need to bring their own money for Lunch on Sunday.

Personal Equipment 

Scouts will need to prepare for colder temperatures at camp.  A jacket, hat, and gloves are advised.  Scouts also need to dress for climbing, dress in layers while allowing for movement (climbing, bending, etc).  Scouts will need their Class A uniforms for Scouts Own.  The Weekend Camping Checklist- the 15 Essentials (located on the Troop 505 website under the “checklist” tab) lists other equipment scouts should bring on the campout. Unlike most other trips, scouts will need to bring their own money for lunch on Sunday.


Friday November 8th

5pm: Depart from American Legion Post 6 for Camp Durant

6:30-8pm: Arrive at Camp Durant, set up camp, and eat dinner in patrols

8-9pm: Scout Activity

10pm: Lights Out

Saturday December 10th

7:00am: Reveille

7:00-8:30am: breakfast in patrols, prepare for Low C.O.P.E. and climbing

9:00-12:00- climbing tower

12:00 pm-1:00pm: Lunch in patrols

1:00-5pm Scout Activity, athletic field reserved for Troop 505

5-7:00pm Dinner in Patrols

7pm- TBA scoutmaster

8:30pm- 11:00pm  capture the flag

11:00 lights out

Sunday December 11th

7am- Reveille

7am-8am: Break down camp

8am: Scouts’ Own

8:30:  head to rifle range

11:00 am: load up vehicles, depart for Chapel Hill, and stop for lunch on Way

~1:15pm: Arrive at American Legion Post 6,


71.1 miles each way (estimated travel time 1.5 hours)

From American Legion

Head southwest on Legion Rd toward Turnberry Ln 0.4 miles. Turn right onto Ephesus Church Rd go 0.1 miles. Turn left onto N Fordham Blvd go 3.8 miles. Take the US-15 S/US-501 S/N Carolina 86 N ramp to Chapel Hill/Pittsboro go 0.2 miles.  Turn left onto N Carolina 86 S/US-15 S/US-501 S/S Columbia St Continue to follow US-15 S/US-501 S go 13.7 miles. Sharp left onto US-15 S/US-501 S/Hillsboro St

Continue to follow US-15 S/US-501 S go 1.7 miles. At the traffic circle, continue straight to stay on US-15 S/US-501 S go 13.9 miles. Turn right to merge onto N Carolina 87 S/US-1 S/US-15 S/US-501 S/Jefferson Davis Hwy toward Southern Pines

Continue to follow US-1 S/US-15 S/US-501 S/Jefferson Davis Hwy go 8.7 miles. Slight right onto US-15 S/US-501 S/White Hill Rd

Continue to follow US-15 S/US-501 S go 10.7 miles. Continue onto Monroe St for 1.2 miles. Turn right onto N Carolina 22 N/N Carolina 27 W/Courthouse Square/McReynolds St

Continue to follow N Carolina 22 N/N Carolina 27 W for 1.2 miles. Turn left onto Bethlehem Church Rd go 7 miles. Continue onto Old Carthage Rd for 0.5 miles.

Arrive at Camp Durant, Camp Durant Ln

2, Bensalem, NC 28327.

Troop 505 Hammocks Beach Expedition Specs Oct 4-6

Men of TomorrowOVERVIEW

Troop 505 will head to Hammocks Beach to enjoy the seashore and work on requirements for the astronomy and hiking merit badges.  Scouts will spend Friday night at Hawkins Creek and travel by Ferry on Saturday morning to Hammocks Beach State Park. Scouts will take a 10 mile hike on Saturday to fulfill part of a hiking merit badge requirement.  Scouts will relax on the beach on Saturday afternoon and work on astronomy merit badge later in the evening.  The Troop will depart Sunday morning and return to Chapel Hill with an estimated arrival of 1pm.


Travel:  18-24

Lodging:  10-16

Food:  $21

Miscellaneous: $5 (cost to ride ferry from inland to island)


Scouts will want to pack proper equipment for a 10 mile hike.  Refer to the Troop 505 website for the 10 hiking essentials.  Scouts will also want to bring things for astronomy merit badge and hanging out at the beach.  Weather forecasts for this weekend show sunny weather on Saturday with a high in the low 80’s and a low in the high 60’s.  Sunday has a 30% chance of rain.  Scouts should be prepared for a possible rain shower.  Scouts should pack their Class A uniforms for Scouts own and for Matt’s Eagle ceremony on Sunday afternoon.


Friday October 4th, 2013

5pm- depart from Chapel Hill American Legion, eat dinner on the road.

8:30pm- arrive at Hawkins Creek Campground, 252 Reid Acres Lane, Hubert, NC, 28539, set up camp

10:00pm- lights out.

Saturday October 5th, 2013

8:00am- Reveille, eat breakfast in patrols, breakdown camp

9:00am- depart for Ferry

9:30am- take ferry to Hammocks Beach

10:15 am- arrive at camp site, set up camp,  depart for 10 mile hike

1:30pm- finish hike, eat lunch in patrols

2:00-5:00pm- enjoy hammocks beach

5:00pm dinner in patrols

6:45-9:00pm work on astronomy merit badge

9:00-10:00pm night walk on beach

10:00pm lights out

Sunday October, 6th, 2013

7:00am-Reveille, breakfast, break down camp

8:15am- scouts own, load gear in vehicles, drive to ferry

10:00am- take ferry to main land

10:30am- drive back to Chapel Hill

~1pm- arrive at Chapel Hill American Legion, head to Matt’s Eagle Scout ceremony.

Troop 505 Philmont Scout Ranch 2013 Expedition Q&A

High AdventureThese Questions & Answers are based on opinions by Ken Parham, from troop 400 in Durham who has attended Philmont 4 times since 2007.  Ken led this discussion for Troop 505 and here are the questions we asked and his answers listed.

What is cell coverage like at Philmont?

Cell coverage is spotty but available depending on how high an elevation you are at when searching for a signal. Some scouts have brought iphones for video and photos and brought a solar charger to keep there electronics charged up. Philmont discourages too much electronics because they want scouts to enjoy the great outdoors.

Should we wear our scout uniform? 

Class A uniforms for Airline travel and during the first and last day in Philmont Base camp. Other than that, the scouts wore whatever they wanted on the trail.

How did you bring your backpack on the airline? 

Best way to carry your backpack is to put it in a large duffel bag. If it won’t fit in the duffel with all your stuff in it, you should put it in the duffel empty and load your other stuff around it. This will help prevent damage occurring to your backpack while on the conveyor belts at the airlines, etc.

Did your guys go to Philmont early to get acclimated to the altitude?

They arrived one day early and stayed in base camp at Philmont (you are allowed to stay one night at base camp prior to starting your trek) They do have canvas tents with bunks in them BUT they are on a FCFS basis and if they aren’t available you would have to sleep in your own tents in a designated area at base camp.

How difficult is the acclimation to elevation change?

The first day you are in base camp at 6,000 feet. The next day on the trail you hike about 1.5-3.0 miles with not much elevation change. Philmont tries to do a good job of helping you slowly acclimate.

Did anyone get sick from AMS (Acute Mountain Sickness) or other elevation related issues? 

Not sure. One scout had nausea for several days but eventually it went away. A doctor at Philmont reported that the single most reported health issue at Philmont is Nausea. Nausea is one of the symptons of AMS and altitude illness.

Did anyone have any injuries during your trips?

One scout had a sprained ankle. Some adults were sick, etc. Philmont has a very good health facility and if you get sick or injured on the trail the philmont staff will take you off the trail and put you up at the infirmary until you are well enough to return to the trail and then they will take you back to rejoin your Crew.

What did you guys do to physically prepare for Philmont?

We went on several pre-trek backpacking trips. (Uwharrie, AT, etc) The single most reported regret of scouts that attended Philmont was that they didn’t do enough pre-trek hikes. This not only prepares your scouts physically but it also helps you to determine who works well together, what gear you don’t really need, how to pack your backpack for best comfort, makes you more efficient to setup and breakdown your gear, etc.  We also tried to encourage scouts to get out and walk in there neighborhoods, at school and during free time with their pack on there backs loaded up with weight.  Because even though you may be in great shape you can’t predict how the pack will wear on our body until you do it.  The last thing you want to do is be at philmont with a pack you haven’t worn much and it hurts your back.

How did you set up pre-trek hikes?

We set it up into crews just like we would at Philmont with a crew leader, etc and went on backpacking and hiking trips.

What was the average size/ weight of packs carried?

It shouldn’t be more than 1/3 your weight and it should be comfortable. In years past adults have carried 55 lbs +, but older adults are trying to pack lighter. Typical pack weights were 35-45 pounds.  Philmont recommends a 4500 cubic inch pack.  I mentioned I had purchased an Osprey Atmos 65, and he commented that this pack was borderline and almost too small.

Did anyone drop out of going after they signed up?

Yes, after the first pre-trek hike, a few adults dropped out. Also one scout was injured with a broken leg and couldn’t make the trip.

What about gear, does everyone need to bring a stove or water filter?

We only brought 2 stoves, one to use as a primary and one as a backup. Also Philmont issues each person water purification tablets made from Chlorine Dioxide. (Micropur), water filters are not really necessary but they did bring a c ouple of them.

What about getting water?

Most of the water comes from wells. Typically you will fill up your bottles from a faucet although it still needs to be treated it will look relatively clear.  Which you can use the tablets to clean or your water filter if you choose to bring one.

What about the weather and temperature?

Ken brought two pairs of shorts, one pair of long pants and one pair of rain pants. This was his particular layer system to keep warm.  A 30-40 degree sleeping bag is plenty warm. Anything below those ratings will likely be too warm and make your sleep uncomfortable.  Also a fleece or light down jacket would be nice. At night the temps get down to around 40 degrees, especially if you are at higher elevations or if it’s raining. It did rain a couple days so good rain gear is a necessity.  Also if you don’t want to use sun screen, consider wearing long pants and long sleeve light weight shirt.

Regarding the gear issued by Philmont do we have to use there’s or can we bring our own?

You can bring your own.  For example, Philmont issues a dining fly and poles, but they brought a 10x 10 tarp of there own and used trekking poles as the poles for there dining fly to cut down on weight. Also , some of the kitchen items were removed because scouts had there own items to cover those items issued by Philmont.

What about the trail food they issue, was it any good? 

Some of it is, and some is not. They issue you enough food that even if you don’t eat all of it, you won’t starve. Also, every staffed camp has a food swap container where people drop off food in the drop box that they didn’t want to eat. If you see something in there you like and want, take it. If you have something you want to drop off for others you can choose to or not. A big hit was mac and cheese, but some dishes were not great. Personal preference mostly.

What if you break your pack or some equipment on the trail?

Philmont has some nice packs for rent and if that happens they can get you another one to use while you are on the trail among other items.

What about food allergies?

Some scouts and adults had allergies. In those cases they brought there own food. It will be delivered to various staffed camps for you to pick up along the trail just like the Philmont provided food is. Its recommended that you bring just the food you need to replace the food that contains allergens. But its your choice if you want to replace it all, you just have to carry it one way or another.

What about tents?

Philmont has tents that they will loan out on a FCFS basis. The tents are relatively new and made by MSR. However they are heavy and rugged. Its recommended that you bring your own two person tent. Most of the people in there group bought the 2 person quarter dome type tents from REI and those worked fine.  They require two people to a tent. Once you are assigned to a crew you should pick your tent mates.

What about sleeping conditions?

You need to bring clean fresh sleep clothes. Your daytime hiking clothes need to go in bear bag in case you spilled a smellable on them. Some people slept in shorts and a tshirt while others slept in long underwear. Personal preference. But it sure does feel nice to sleep in clean clothes at night in your sleeping bag. The weather is dry so even if your clothes get soaked in sweat or rain they dry fast.  Although still smell sweaty.

What about camp shoes?

A lot of people brought Croc’s. They are bulky but light weight and you don’t have to worry about them staying wet for a long time, they dry fast since they are plastic/rubber material. Most people strapped them on the outside of there pack.  It was recommended that you wear your hiking boots on the plane to Philmont, because in the event that your luggage gets lost or arrives late, you don’t want to have to go buy yourself a brand new pair of hiking boots for the trail.

Is the mileage on the itineraries and treks accurate? 

No not really. If you go on a trek that states its 55 miles, it will be longer because you are required to do a 3 hour conservation project, plus staffed camp activities may require you to walk a couple miles for the activities, the bathroom may be quite a ways away as well. So if you go on a 55 mile trek, that’s just point A to point B mileage, the extra walking isn’t included,  for example a 70 mile trek will be more like 90 miles of walking.  Keep that in mind when selecting your trek.

What did most scouts pick in terms of treks?

Its not recommended that you go on a strenuous or super strenuous trek unless you are in great shape. When they say strenuous they mean it. Most scouts should pick Challenging or Rugged especially if its there first time to Philmont.

Troop 505 2nd Annual Jordan Lake Iron Chef Cook-Off Expedition Specs Sep 6-9

The ScoutmasterOverview

Troop 505 will head to Jordan Lake for a fun weekend of scout activities, and an “Iron Chef” style cook-off on Saturday evening.  What will the secret ingredient be this year?  What new culinary skills have the scouts developed since the last IRON SCOUT competition?  Will a new patrol unseat the reigning IRON SCOUT champion???  Jordan Lake is a favorite local destination for many people in the Triangle Area.  Learn more about Jordan Lake State Park at: .   Get an idea of what it takes to be an “Iron Chef” at:  See a video at


Food : $20 Travel: $3-5

Lodging: $4-6 Other: TBA (cost of mystery ingredient for Cook-off)


This trip will be Troop 505’s first “autumn” campout of the year.  Temperatures are cooling off and scouts must prepare for variable weather conditions.   Scouts will want to bring the 15 camping essentials listed on the Troop 505 website.  Scouts may want to think about the all-important cook wear and ingredients for the 2nd Annual IRON Chef SCOUT cook-off.   Lastly, scouts will need their class A uniforms for the Scouts Own on Sunday morning.


Scouts will want to think about spices and cooking tools they might need for the competition that they might not normally use in camp cooking.  A cutting board, spices, extra pots could be useful for the competition.  Scouts will not only need to create a “winning meal” for the judges, but this meal will also serve as part Saturday’s dinner.


$17/scout (Friday Dinner: $4, Saturday Breakfast: $3, Saturday Lunch $3, Saturday Dinner: $4, Sunday Breakfast: eat on road ($5)


Friday September 6: 

5:00pm: depart from American Legion

5:40pm: arrive at Jordan Lake State Park

5:45-7:00pm set up camp and dine in patrols

7:00pm TBA by scoutmaster

10:00pm lights out

Saturday September 7:

7:00am Wake

7:00-8:00am breakfast by patrols

9:30-12:00 begin 1st activity (TBA Senior Patrol Leader)

12:00pm-1pm lunch in patrols

1:00-4:30pm scouts continue participating in 3 activities

4:30-5:30pm scouts plan for Iron-Chef in patrols

5:30-7:00pm IRON CHEF (and dinner by patrol)

7:00-7:30pm clean up

7:30pm TBA by scoutmaster

10:00pm lights out

Sunday September 8:

8:00am wake

8:15am- break down camp

9:00am scouts own (class A uniforms)

9:30am depart for American Legion stop for breakfast on way back

11:00am Arrive at American Legion

Troop 505 Nolichucky River Class V Whitewater Rafting Expedition Specs Jun 21-23


Troop 505 is traveling west for a whitewater adventure on the Nolichucky River.  The Nolichucky River is one of the top 10 whitewater rafting river runs in the nation. Guides will instruct the scouts how to raft on whitewater.  Scouts will hone their whitewater skills while rafting on the Nolichucky River for most of Saturday.  Scouts will return to camp Saturday evening and return to Chapel Hill on Sunday morning.  Scouts going on this trip will need to signed waiver as well as having a completed BSA health form.

Learn more about the Nolichucky River at:

Learn more about Wahoo Adventures (the whitewater tour guides) at:


Food: $17 (Saturday lunch provided by Wahoo Adventures)

Travel: $18-$22

Lodging: (included in activity fee)

Miscellaneous: $80 (Activity fee for whitewater rafting)


Scouts will need to pack their regular camping equipment for a weekend outing.  Scouts will car camp Friday and Saturday evening and will prepare their meals at camp.  Look on the Troop 505 website for a list of camping gear needed for the typical camping trip.  Scouts will also need to think about they need to wear for their time on the whitewater.  Clothes made of fast drying material might be a good choice.  Scouts should certainly pack 2 pair of shoes on this trip.  Scout will want to pack an extra set of dry clothes to change into on Saturday evening as well.


Friday June 21, 2013

5:00pm- depart from American Legion for camp area.  Eat dinner on way.

9:00pm- arrive at camping area, Wahoos Watauga River Outpost, 105 John Sheffield Drive, Elizabethton, NC, 37644, set up camp.

10:00pm- lights out

Saturday June 22, 2013

6:45am- Reveille, breakfast in patrols, prepare for whitewater adventure

8:00am- depart for Nolichucky meeting area, Wahoos Nolichucky River Outpost, 1201 Rock Creek Road, Erwin, TN, 37650

9:15am- arrive at Nolichucky meeting area, begin whitewater training, begin trip down the Nolichucky River

~1:00pm – eat lunch along river

~4:30pm- finish rafting, return equipment

5:00pm- depart for camp

5:45pm- arrive in camp, dinner by patrols

7:30pm-TBA by scoutmaster

10:00pm- lights out

Sunday June 23, 2013

7:15am-Reveille, break down camp

8:00am- Scouts own, (class A uniform)

8:20am- load up vehicles, depart for Chapel Hill, eat breakfast on way

~12:15-12:30pm- arrive at Chapel Hill American Legion